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Unsto

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2007, 02:59:01 PM »
Eχω την εντυπωση οτι το cod2 δεν ωφειλειτε ιδιαιτερα απο dual core(καπου εχω δει benches αλλα ακομα τα ψαχνω), παραδειγμα αυξησης αποδοσης σε dual core ειναι το Q4.

Edit : http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/call_of_duty_2_dual-core/page8.asp
« Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 03:04:34 PM by Unsto »

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2007, 03:01:10 PM »
As mhn mperdevoume tis vourtses me tis loutses....
Allo SLI pou einai sxediasmeni na moirazetai to forto twn grafikwn pou kai h pardali katsika 3erei oti einai to bottleneck sta paixnidia kai to frame rate, kai allo diplopurhnos epe3ergasths pou tha moirasei ti? O unsto exei dikio arkei o enas epe3ergasths na einai apo tous teleutaious.!

PS: ektos kai an thes tautoxrona me to paixnidi sou na kaneis kai render kana movie  :guitar:
« Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 03:03:06 PM by SirSteven »

Unsto

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2007, 03:05:35 PM »
Να παιζεις παντως και να γραφεις κανα dvd ή να κανεις recode καμια ταινια δεν ειναι ασχημα ;D ;D

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2007, 03:25:32 PM »
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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2007, 08:31:43 PM »
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Allo SLI pou einai sxediasmeni na moirazetai to forto twn grafikwn pou kai h pardali katsika 3erei oti einai to bottleneck sta paixnidia kai to frame rate, kai allo diplopurhnos epe3ergasths

Μπράβο ρε,νόμιζα ηταν το ίδιο :P

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2007, 12:43:45 PM »
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As mhn mperdevoume tis vourtses me tis loutses....
Allo SLI pou einai sxediasmeni na moirazetai to forto twn grafikwn pou kai h pardali katsika 3erei oti einai to bottleneck sta paixnidia kai to frame rate, kai allo diplopurhnos epe3ergasths pou tha moirasei ti? O unsto exei dikio arkei o enas epe3ergasths na einai apo tous teleutaious.!


Enas classic P4 single core me enan Duo den diaferoun
mono sto diplopyrhno... diaforetikh cpu teleiws. Alla set edolwn , allh diaxeirhsh, Allh Cache ktl.
to idio kai se amd.

Shmera se oti game exei vgei ews twra enas single core cpu overclocked me low latency ddr1 mnhmes
dinei kalytera fps sta games apo enan dual core me ddr2 me thn idia vga , IDIO CPU APLA dual core...
sth pliopshfia twn game se metries analyseis.

An anevaseis analysh xwseis AA k AF tote papala... ta bench einai SAFWS xeirotera.
Sou fernw paradeigma enan Athlon 64 4000 me enan idio alla x2 apto tomshardware.
Sto unreal o aplos dinei 10 fps pio panw, enw sto quake 4 35fps ppio katw .
Oson afora to cod, o aplos dinei 10 fps pio katw :D

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

Parola afta, ta games pou vgainoun edw kai kairo einai  "multi-threaded games" (quake4).
more pyrhnes , better ;) designed gia core fash kai arga alla stathera se oti game vgei
oi dual core tha apodwsoun kalytera. Me liga logia an paizeis MONO COD k de se noiazei tpte allo,
oute ta 10fps leigotera logo cpu pou tha xeis... pare single core k pushare ton k pare mia kalyterh vga
k enan raptora)

Mellontika omws an apofasiseis na paikseis cod4 ;) tha xeis bottleneck  (ddr1-singleore etc.)
To cod2 einai multithread designed game ALLA oxi optimised opws tha prepe , viastiko ews poly
viastiko me mhdamhno beta testing. PAROLA afta me dual core cpu exeis elafra kalytera fps.

+ oti pote de tha trexeis mono cod... tha trexeis KAI Ventrilo kai MSN kai IRC kai an exeis Onboard
karta hxou tha apasxoleite k ekei H cpu .
« Last Edit: April 12, 2007, 01:08:16 PM by AssVas »
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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2007, 04:28:51 PM »
 :o Kala re palikari mou iparxi kati telika sto xoro pou na min to ksereis :)
PS:I domi eisai ;  :eleos:

Unsto

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2007, 04:38:56 PM »
..............Parola afta, ta games pou vgainoun edw kai kairo einai  "multi-threaded games" (quake4).
more pyrhnes , better ;) designed gia core fash kai arga alla stathera se oti game vgei
oi dual core tha apodwsoun kalytera. .....

Μπα ακομα η συντριπικη πλειοψηφια δεν ειναι multithreaded, το Quake4 ειναι απο τις λιγες εξαιρεσεις, το μελλον ομως προφανως ανηκει στα multi core cpus (αλλωστε δεν μπορουν να κανουν και τπτ αλλο οι εταιριες κατασκευης επεξεργαστων). Αλλα ακομα και σημερα η διαφορα ενος single core και ενος multi core cpu ειναι σημαντικη σε οποιονδηποτε κανει εστω και ελαχιστο multitasking. Ναι μπορει να κανει την δουλεια του και με 1 core αλλα δεν σημαινει οτι περισσοτερα cores δεν θα κανουν την ζωη του πιο ευκολη.

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2007, 10:52:35 PM »
unsto to thema einai oti k  single core cpu asxeta an einai designed to game gia multi task H oxi , xanoun merika fps sta bench . 5-10fps sta perissotera K to cod anoikei se afta.

Wstoso opws eipa epilogh tou na kanei oti thelei , epeidh yphrksa katoxos kai twn 2 kata kairous,
kai cyrix eixa ;) eimai adikeimenikotatos. Enw o sir eixe amd forever k apo tote pou ton evale
den ton allakse . se low med systhmata amd kateixe panta ta prwteia , enw se cpu me efamiles prodiagrafes kai times mono epi athlon katafere na parei ta prwteia k ekshghsa to logo .

De doulevw sthn intel eleos k o server pou xa arxika AMD Atlhon 1.7xp htan ;) me Millenium
malista kai de crashare pote apo hardware cpu-mobo fault.

Oi arithmoi de lene psemata .
<BriZolaS> kala koita egw ton assvas ton exw paradextei
<BriZolaS> sto oti phge rodo kai apo tdm to gurisate sd
<BriZolaS> einai san na stelneis ierapostolo stous zoulou na tous kaneis xristianous

SirSteven

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2007, 12:11:56 PM »
Exeis apolyto dikio se osa les kai prin postarw ta poigoumena eixa paei kai egw volta ston Tom gia na dw ta fps. Omws auto pou den epsa3a giati to thewrisa autonohto htan ti tha plirwseis parapanw gia auta ta 10 fps tou cod. An 3erei kapoios to vazei alla nomizw oti einai POLLA perissotera. :'(

Twra to Vent o hxos kai ta loipa programmatakia einai anyparkta gia thn CPU. De trwne katholou resources.De ta thewrw kan a3ia kouventas. Multithread einai kai o single pyrhnas. Akrivws epeidh mia efarmogi pou trexei xrisimopoiei polla threads kai dystyxws de mporei na apodwsei kalytera o diplos pyrinas apo ton aplo logw tou tropou diaxeirhsis twn threads. Diladi de mporoun tautoxrona na "ypologistoun" ta tread 0 ews 100 kai ta 100-200 apo 2 diaforetikous pirines kai na exeis "apotelesma" gia thn efarmogi. Autos einai kai o periorismos tou dual core. Twra an trexeis 2 efarmoges allazoun ta pragmata. Tote mporei eukola o kathe pyrinas na analavei ta threads ths kathe efarmogis 3exwrista.
Parakalw diorthwste me an kanw lathos giati eimai men tou Polytexneiou den eimai twn ypologistwn de. :huff1:

Unsto

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2007, 01:24:55 PM »
Πολλες φορες μπορει καποιο thread να χρειαζετε δεδομενα που πρεπει να υπολογισει ενα διαφορετικο thread πρωτα, αυτο δεν σημαινει οτι δεν υπαρχουν περιπτωσεις οπου μπορουμε να εχουμε πολλα threads χωρις αλληλοεξαρτησεις σε δεδομενα, οποτε τοτε μπορουμε να εχουμε πληρη παραλληλοποιηση αρα και εκμεταλευση πολλαπλων πυρηνων. To οτι ενας single core cpu μπορει να υπολογισει ταυτοχρονα πολλα threads δεν σημαινει κατι, αφου ειτε ενα υπολογιζει ειτε 10 μαζι ιδια αποδοση εχει.

P.S. Δυστηχως δεν εχω γραψει τον απειρο κωδικα με threads και γενικα multiprocessing, αλλα εχω δει πως δουλευουν γενικα.

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2007, 08:21:25 PM »
guys to thema me ta lefta einai aplo , an pareis enan 4000  amd single k enan dual sta lefta
den exoun diafora sxedon katholou ... to thema einai oti tha prepei na skaseis lefta gia ta rest
= mobo rams etc. afta einai pou tha kanoun to teliko kostos / diafora.

P.S  thn xxx sou me dolby k 4 windwos instances tha
thes na deis se high definition k as mh to peis edw pub :P :D

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<BriZolaS> sto oti phge rodo kai apo tdm to gurisate sd
<BriZolaS> einai san na stelneis ierapostolo stous zoulou na tous kaneis xristianous

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Pame gia Intel dld ;P
Paraligo na paro simera ton E6600, eftihos den ton pira xD

Kapou iha diavasi pos i AMD tha vgali stin agora tous halasmenous 4pirinous pou ehi k tha tous poulai san 3pirinous...

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Re: AMD gia INTEL
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2007, 02:55:43 PM »
dax me tetoies times an plhsiasoun k edw , tha paw gia upgrade. 8a f8ininoun k oi aploi duo etoimasteite gia na
kanete anavathmish - cod4
<BriZolaS> kala koita egw ton assvas ton exw paradextei
<BriZolaS> sto oti phge rodo kai apo tdm to gurisate sd
<BriZolaS> einai san na stelneis ierapostolo stous zoulou na tous kaneis xristianous