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mono 10 xronia!!
« on: April 18, 2008, 04:10:33 PM »
Εχουμε (μολις) δεκα χρονια για να σωσουμε τον πλανητη Γη.
 
Πολλα νησακια του Ειρηνικου βρισκονται ηδη κατω απο τη σταθμη της θαλασσας. Σειρα εχουν οι πολεις που βρεχονται απο νερο, οπως το Αμστερνταμ, το Λονδινο, η Νεα Υορκη, η Βενετια, η Θεσσαλονικη.
Κυματα προσφυγων θα συρρεουν σε ασφαλεις χωρες και οταν και αυτες θα πλημμυρισουν θα φευγουν για αλλες. Οι καυσωνες και οι λειψυδριες θα φερουν πολεμους για το νερο. Οι οικονομιες ετσι θα καταρρευσουν. Και παρα πολλα αλλα, που σιγουρα εχετε διαβασει τα τελευταια χρονια.
 
Και λοιπον , τι γινεται στο τελος;
 
Ολα θα κριθουν σε λιγοτερο απο 10 χρονια, που πρεπει να πατησουμε γερα το φρενο ωστε μεχρι το 2050 να εχει μειωθει το διοξειδιο του ανθρακα στην ατμοσφαιρα κατα 80%.
Ειμαστε ουσιαστικα οι τελευταιοι κατοικοι του που μπορουν ακομη να ανατρεψουν την καταστροφη του.
Η γενια που αποφασιζει.
Η γενια που ή θα του δωσει τη χαριστικη βολη ή θα τον σωσει. Εκεινη που θα της καταλογιστουν οι περισσοτερες ευθυνες.
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Στις 29 Μαρτιου, το χρονικο διαστημα απο τις 20:00 μεχρι τις 21:00 τοπικη, εχει ανακηρυχθει 'Ωρα της Γης'. Η οργανωση 'Earth Hour', μας καλει για μια ωρα να κλεισουμε φωτα, κουζινες, θερμοσιφωνες, τηλεορασεις, στερεοφωνικα , τα παντα. Περσι ειχε γινει μονο στο Σιδνει της Αυστραλιας, φετος επαναλαμβανεται σε παγκοσμιο επιπεδο.
 
Αλλα μπορει να σωθει ο πλανητης αν κατεβασει κανεις το γενικο για μια ωρα; Οχι βεβαια.
 
Αλλα μπορουμε να αφιερωσουμε μια ωρα απο τη ζωη μας, για να σκεφτουμε τι θελουμε απο τη Γη. Ας κανουμε ενα διαλειμα, ας περπατησουμε σε μια παραλια η σε ενα δασος και ας αποφασισουμε αν θελουμε να τα δουν αυτα οι επομενες γενιες, τα παιδια μας, ή αν πραγματικα δεν μας καιγεται καρφι, που εκεινοι στους οποιους θα παραδωσουμε τον πλανητη δεν θα μπορουν να σταθουν πουθενα πανω του. Οσοι αποφασισουμε τη συνεχιση της ζωης, ας πιεσουμε οπου και οσο μπορουμε.
 
Η ωρα της Γης ηρθε και δεν σηκωνει αλλες αναβολες.  Παρτε θεση.!
 

ΥΓ. Ενημερωστε φιλους, γνωστους κτλ.

Ειναι λιγο παλιο. Δεν το εβαλα για να κλεισουμε τον γενικο για 1 ωρα αλλα για να δουμε σε πια περιπου κατασταση ειναι ο πλανητης.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2008, 04:18:12 PM by Bobby »

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 05:48:28 PM »
Γιατί το κλείδωσες;
Είναι καλό θέμα για συζήτηση... αν και έχουμε πει διάφορα και σε παλιότερο thread.
you choose
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The angry dad asks Max: "Max, did you make your sister wet?"
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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 06:25:22 PM »
opened.

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 10:00:19 PM »
Η οργανωση 'Earth Hour', μας καλει για μια ωρα να κλεισουμε φωτα, κουζινες, θερμοσιφωνες, τηλεορασεις, στερεοφωνικα , τα παντα. Περσι ειχε γινει μονο στο Σιδνει της Αυστραλιας, φετος επαναλαμβανεται σε παγκοσμιο επιπεδο.
 
Αλλα μπορει να σωθει ο πλανητης αν κατεβασει κανεις το γενικο για μια ωρα; Οχι βεβαια.
 

Dld 8a einai down o 222?  :'(

file bobby 8a s pw kati...kala ta les,alla poios se akouei..
Ti na prwtokoitaksoume etsi opws exoume ginei k etsi opws ta exoume kanei.~
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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 10:50:20 PM »
Και ομως , δεν ειναι πολυ αργα για να αλλαξουμε την κατασταση.  ;)

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 02:06:11 PM »
gia na doume se ti katastash einai peripou o planhths........

Ektos apo ta propagandistika perivallontika site kapoion vrwmiaridwn xippies oles oi endikseis se sovares epistimonikes meletes deixnoun to antitheto. Fetos oi pagoi gyrisan peripou sta kanonika tous epipeda logo toy kryou xeimwna. To dioksideio tou anthraka exei meiothei logo ypsilon vroxoptoseon. H viopoikilotita exei ayksithei se epipeda rekor.

Olh ayth h propaganda tha ekane ton Stalin perifano (anarotithikate pote giati mas ta vazoun sto kefali apo to dhmotiko otan den exoume thn ikanothta kritikhs skepshs?)

Akoma kai an pistevei kapoios sto "fainomeno tou thermokhpiou" o anthropinos paragontas einai toso amelhteos pou akoma kai an efarmozontan MAZIKA metra to apotelesma tha htan = 0.

An thelei kapoios PRAGMATIKA na voithisei ton planhth to mono pou exei na kanei einai na valei mia karampina sto stoma kai na traviksei th skandalh.

Kalytera na to kanei se ena dasos, wste na dwsei sta zwa kai entoma kati na fane kai na ginei meros ths trofikhs alysidas.

Na svineis ta fwta gia mia wra einai hlithio, vasika ena matso karagkiozides pou koroideyoun ton eayto tous nomizontas oti oi geloies prakseis tous exoun kapoia epitwsh ektos apo na threfoun th xamhlh aytoektimhsh tous.

np:

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 01:55:58 PM »
Ektos apo ta propagandistika perivallontika site kapoion vrwmiaridwn xippies oles oi endikseis se sovares epistimonikes meletes deixnoun to antitheto. Fetos oi pagoi gyrisan peripou sta kanonika tous epipeda logo toy kryou xeimwna. To dioksideio tou anthraka exei meiothei logo ypsilon vroxoptoseon. H viopoikilotita exei ayksithei se epipeda rekor.

Oxi, tis malakies sou phgaine tes allou. Edw exoume akousei arketes. Xortasame.

Oxi, den 8a 3odepsw pera apo 20 deuterolepta gia na postarw se apanthsh enos anideou, pou leei oti tou katebei. Arnoumai.
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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 02:24:38 PM »
Συμφωνω μαζι σου Jinxcat. Πραγματικα αηδιασα με την απαντηση του Mosvar αλλα δεν του απαντησα γιατι δεν νομιζω οτι αξιζει. Πιστευω οτι δεν μπορεις να αντεξεις την σκληρη αληθεια για την κατασταση του πλανητη σημερα και γραφεις πραγματα που σε βολευουν ή που θα θελες να ειναι ετσι. Τωρα αν πιστευεις οτι ο ανθρωπος ηρθε στην γη μονο και μονο για να γινει τροφη και μερος της τροφικης αλυσιδας και το μονο πραγμα που εχεις να πεις για εναν χιπη ειναι η βρομια του, τοτε τι να σου πω ...

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2008, 04:01:13 PM »
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An thelei kapoios PRAGMATIKA na voithisei ton planhth to mono pou exei na kanei einai na valei mia karampina sto stoma kai na traviksei th skandalh.

Profanws to satirizei to thema arketa, egw ton dikaiologw pantws kai tha sas
eksigisw to giati . Nai thelw na swsw th gh ktl , poios de thelei ena kalytero
Avrio ?

Alla as paroume gia paradeigma to Nero, pou kathe kalokairi mas prizoun
na kanoume oikonomia ktl. Dektos , exoume problhma ydrefshs... alla
Otan mas ypoxrewnoun na elaxistopoioume th xrhsh tou nerou, to lene
spatalh, de lene apo erevna tou metsoviou polytexniou pws sthn Ellada
gia paradeigma, apo to 100% ths katanomhs tou nerou gia ydrefsh to 75%
paei sth Gewrgia... pou apo afto to 50% paei xameno logo eleipsewn sta
diktya metaforas tou nerou ... apo to ypoloipo 25% to 15% paei sth Biomhxania.
Menei se emas to ypoloipo 10% gia na kanoume th diafora... enw plhrwnoume
kanonika forus etc. Wste tha eprepe ta diktya na htan kathws prepei kai me
elaxistes apwleies...

Etsi , enas aplos anthrwpos an katsei na skeftei logika tha gyrei yper tou
starxidismou. Ksanalew de kanw afto to reply gia na ginei flame to topic,
alla kapou kapou kathomaste trwme th sfaliara mas kai leme kai efxaristw,
se tosa ma TOSA pragmata (apo thema ergwn gia tis fetines pyrkagies den
exei ginei akoma tpta... mono exoun arxisei erga oikodomwn etairiwn
ekmetalefshs twn kammenwn perioxwn) kai tespa epeidh to thema einai megalo
kai ksekina apo allou , vlepw egw kai diorthwste me an kanw lathos tous
perissoterous na mh tous endiaferei pragmatika tpta , na mh dinoun dekara.
De mporw na tous adikisw omws... kai eksigisa to giati , thewrw thn
syberifora tous dikaiologhmenh. Dld o movsar k se alla replies pou anaferei
ton paragonta Alter epi tois ekato, exei kat eme dikio.

De lew na mh kanoume tpta apla den tha allaksoun polla. Gia th rypansh
tou kafsaereiou o zbou exei podhlato, enw o allos exei 3 amaksia sthn
oikogeneia tou... etc etc etc etc. Tespa tha kanw epi tou thematos
kai allo reply later.

Stick sto topic kai mh ginei flame parakalw.
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<BriZolaS> sto oti phge rodo kai apo tdm to gurisate sd
<BriZolaS> einai san na stelneis ierapostolo stous zoulou na tous kaneis xristianous

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2008, 11:17:21 PM »
ena mikro orektiko....

Climate Change 101: Key Global Warming Facts
by Dennis T. Avery  (April 20, 2008)

The Earth’s warming since 1850 totals about 0.7 degrees C. Most of this occurred before 1940.

The cause: a long, moderate 1,500-year climate cycle first discovered in the Greenland ice cores in 1983. The cycle abruptly raises our temperature 1 to 3 degrees C above the mean for centuries at a time--as it did during the Roman Warming (200 BC to 600 AD) and Medieval Warming (950 to1300 AD).

Between warmings, Earth’s temperatures shift abruptly lower by 1 to 3 degrees C--as they did during the 550 years of the Little Ice Age, which ended in 1850. The ice cores and seabed fossils show 600 of these 1,500-year cycles, extending back at least 1 million years.


CO2 Increases Lag Temperature Increases

In Al Gore’s movie, the ice record from the Antarctic shows temperatures and atmospheric CO2 levels tracking closely together through the radical ups and downs of four Ice Ages. The movie implies that more CO2 in the air produces higher temperatures.

But we’ve recently done more refined ice studies, which show the temperatures changed about 800 years before the CO2 levels. More CO2 did not produce higher temperatures; instead, higher temperatures released more CO2 from the oceans into the atmosphere.

If the climate models’ original greenhouse predictions had been valid, the Earth’s temperatures would have risen several degrees more by now than they have. The Earth’s net warming since 1940 is a barely noticeable 0.2 degrees C, over 70 years. For the sake of argument, let’s give the alarmists credit for half of this, or 0.1 degree C.

Moreover, the Earth has experienced no discernible temperature increase since 1998, nearly nine years ago. Remember, too, that the atmosphere is approaching CO2 saturation--after which more CO2 will have no added climate forcing power.


Temperatures, Sunspots, Cosmic Rays

There is a 95 percent correlation between Earth’s temperatures and sunspots since 1860. There is virtually no correlation between our temperatures and CO2 in the atmosphere.

The sunspot number has recently dropped to zero. In the past, when sunspot numbers and our temperatures have diverged, the sunspots have been the leading indicator. The temperatures have soon shifted to follow. Does this mean that Earth’s temperatures will soon decline? History says yes.

How long will the global warming alarmists be able to sustain the public hysteria without strongly rising temperatures? This will be a key factor in the short-term future of climate warming legislation.

Henrik Svensmark of the Danish Space Research Institute says cosmic rays are the link between the sun’s variability and Earth’s temperatures. More or fewer cosmic rays, depending on the strength of the “solar wind,” seed more or fewer of the low, wet clouds that cool the Earth. Further experiments to document this impact are planned in Europe.

“There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing, or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” That statement comes from a petition signed by more than 19,000 American scientists, available online at a site hosted by the Oregon Institute for Science and Medicine at <www.oism.org>.


Warming Cycles Are the Norm

The Earth has had eight warming cycles since the last Ice Age. Several of these were apparently warmer than today, based on the evidence of fossils and isotopes.

The Medieval Warming until recently was known as “the little climate optimum.” Human numbers increased with the long, stable growing seasons; there were fewer and milder storms; and there were fewer deadly disease epidemics. Bubonic plague attacked Europe during both the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age.

No wild species have gone extinct due to higher temperatures during the “unprecedented warming” of the past century. All of the existing species have been through even stronger warmings in the past. We have not examined their coping strategies, preferring to demand instead that somehow the climate cycle be stopped.

Arctic ice area has hit a modern low in recent months, but this cannot be due to global warming because the Antarctic simultaneously has the most ice in modern times. The polar regions have their own climate cycles, which operate within the longer 1,500-year cycle.

Earth also has the North Atlantic Oscillation, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, the El Niño cycle, and a 22.5-year sunspot-related cycle in Southern Hemisphere rainfall.

The new book Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years cites hundreds of peer-reviewed studies by more than 500 fully qualified scientists who found evidence that

1) a natural, moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced several global warmings similar to ours since the last Ice Age and/or

2) our Modern Warming is linked strongly to variations in the sun’s irradiance;

3) sea levels are failing to rise importantly;

4) our storms and droughts are becoming fewer and milder with this warming as they did during previous global warmings;

5) human deaths will be reduced with warming because cold kills far more people than heat; and

6) corals, trees, birds, mammals, and butterflies are adapting well to the routine reality of changing climate.

Despite being published in such journals such as Science, Nature, and Geophysical Review Letters, these scientists have gotten little media attention.

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2008, 11:23:10 PM »
tora poso "malakeies" einai ayta pou lew tha to krinoun osoi diavazoun. symfwno me assvas oti to thema einai megalo kai ksekina apo allou. kyriws apo kati fasistes pou nomizoun oti mono aytoi mporoun na ekferoun apopsi kai molis akoune kati diaforetiko deixnoun na pragmatika tous xrwmata. epitethika se kapoion prosopika? prosopikh epithesi dextika pantos. agapi eirinh eytyxia, kai misos gia osous ekferoun diaforetikh apopsh. aytoi eiste. oso kai agwnistes na to paizete exete aplws antallaksei th swastika kai ta fasces me to symvolo ths eirinhs kai rainbow flag.

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 12:57:42 AM »
Εσυ, σαν σοβαρος δημοκρατικος που εισαι και ακους τις αποψεις ολων και δεν σε πειραζουν, αποκαλεις τους χιπηδες βρωμιαριδες? Κατι δεν παει καλα  :-X

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2008, 02:38:29 AM »
To ti einai autos o Dennis T. Avery, paizei na to ma8oume...? [edit] Mhpws aplws prospa8ei na poulhsei to biblio tou? Mhpws aplws prospa8ei na dwsei dikaiologies "starxidismou" ws pros thn politikh sugkekrimenwn kratwn pros to periballon? [/edit]

"6) corals, trees, birds, mammals, and butterflies are adapting well to the routine reality of changing climate."

Auto pes to sto Megalo Koraliogenes Fragma anatolika ths Australias, enan apo tous megaluterous udrobiotopous tou planhth, an oxi TON megalutero. Ta koralia pe8ainoun logw ths au3hshs ths 8ermokrasias, sumparasurontas ston afanismo OLH thn topikh udrobia panida kai xlwrida.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/20/1077072841007.html
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/08/08/coral-reefs.html


Epishs, apo stoixeia pou brhka mesa se... 60 deuterolepta, h epifaneia tou pagou sto Boreio Hmisfaireio meiwnetai kata 3%/dekaetia, enw h epifaneia ths Antarktikhs au3anetai 0.8%/dekaetia. H Antarktikh omws den paizei toso shmantiko rolo sto klima ths Eurwphs, alla kai oloklhrou tou planhth, oso h Arktikh 8alassa kai ta aerina kai udatina reumata pou 3ekinoun h' pernoun apo ekei. Auto mono gia thn epifaneia tou pagou. Akoma pio shmantiko einai to paxos tou pagou (to opoio dinei kai ton sunoliko OGKO pagou), to opoio einai se xeiroterh katastash KAI STOYS DYO POLOYS.

http://psc.apl.washington.edu/thinning/thinning.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_ice_packs

Apo to 2010 kai meta, me to sugxrono ba8mo au3hshs ths 8ermokrasias, KA8E xrono to kalokairi STHN ELLADA 8a einai 1 ba8mo Kelsiou pio 8ermo apo to prohgoumeno.

Mporeis an 8es na perimeneis na to "niwseis". Kai otan ta paidia sou den 8a mporoun na pai3oun e3w to kalokairi, otan h A8hna 8a menei apokleismenh apo ta xionia 10 meres ka8e xeimwna anti gia 2 opws fetos, otan h 8essalonikh 8a arxisei na ginetai proektash ths 8alassas, otan o 8essalikos kampos DEN 8a mporei na bgalei sparta (giati den 8a uparxei nero na potisei ta xwrafia stous 50-55 ba8mous Kelsiou) kai 8a peis to pswmi pswmaki, kai otan h agaphmenh sou paralia sthn Mukono 8a einai miso metro katw apo thn 8alassa, MPOREIS NA LES OTI FTAINE OI XIPHDES!

Auta.

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[Edit 2:] Paradexomai oti parafer8hka. Den sunh8izw na brizw, kai eidika se forum. Zhtw sugnwmh apo ta melh tou forum, alla kai apo tous admin gia thn sugkekrimenh sumperifora. An kai den to blepw ws "proswpikh epi8esh", mias kai den sxoliasa to atomo, oute prokeitai, alla tis apopseis tou. Pou -kata thn gnwmh mou pantote- paramenoun "paidikes" de sobarothta kai kritikh skepsh.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2008, 12:39:33 PM by Jinxcat »
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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2008, 04:27:58 PM »
Adapt or Die (C)
Defining life since ~4.000.000.000 BC.

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Re: mono 10 xronia!!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2008, 09:18:10 PM »
entomeataksy shmera h ellada efage "ban" apo to Kioto :huff1: