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SoldierBlue

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« on: March 12, 2007, 05:49:29 PM »
De sas vlepo na to sizitate kai anysixo, mono cod paizete, re kamenoi...??? ;D

H tainia gamise apla, kata ti gnomi mou. Istorika akrivis sto megalytero meros. Artia san paragogi vasismeni sto comic tou Miller, opou empneusmenos ap tin istoriki auti maxi, eftiakse auto to comic me poly liges fantastikes pinelies mesa. Tromeres maxes soma me soma, anadeiknyontas to tropo pou polemousan oi Spartiates (oi Ellines genikotera, epeidi Fallages eixan oles oi poleis) apla oi Spartiates itan pio "pro". Nomizo oti auti ti tainia prepei na tin doun oloi oi ellines, oxi gia na fountosoume apo e8niki yperifania, alla gia na ntrapoume pio poly gia ti simerini mas katantia. De leo alla gia na pate na ti deite kai na krinete monoi sas, alla kai epeidi 8elo na estiaso allou.

Idi exei kopsei 300.000 eisitiria stin Ellada kai oi kritikoi kai oi pseutokoultouriarides to xava tous... "militaristiki sapounopera", "comic" "siga ta oa" kai mlkies tetoies...Ti malakes einai autoi re...Piga kai eida apo sponta to "mia melissa ton Augousto" epeidi i8ele na to dei mia fili mou kai eklapsa ta lefta mou, me mia tainia mias wras kai kati dld, pou ok, kalytera na evlepa tileorasi, 8eloun oloi autoi oi malakes na exoun kai apospi kai na xleyazoun kai na kritikaroun an oxi kati pou de tairiazei sta metra tous istorika, i tous ntropiazei gia ton opoiodipote logo, TOULAXISTON as paradextoun oti oli i tainia einai ena ergo texnis pano ap ola.

Ti to oreo kai aksiepaino exei na epideiksei o sygxronos Ellinikos kinimatografos, pou ola ayta ta xronia, to mono pou deixnei, einai enas Ellinas tou kolou. Ka8imerina an8ropakia, pou koitane pos na fane, pos na pioune, kai pos na gamisoune o enas tin gomena tou allou. Diladi re paidia, an o kinimatografos einai mia eikona tis koinwnias tou ka8e kratous emeis ti exoume na deiksoume oste na tous afisoume me to stoma anoixto, an oxi tin istoria mas. Ena exo na po...An de goustareis oi ksenoi na emporeuontai tin istoria sou kai na tin parapoioun, logo tis gnostis karamelas "to Hollywood exei ta mesa", PLIROSE kai exe kai sy auti tin texnognosia kai ta mesa kai tote kane kritiki. Enas wonnabe Ellinas paragogos den exei vre8ei na paei na piasei ena Amerikano skino8eti, i Ellina esto kai na ta xosei kai na kanei mia tainiara aneksartitos periexomenou, plironontas kai ta mesa. De nomizo to opoiodipote Hollywood na arni8ei otan tou dineis lefta.

Auto pou kanoun einai aplo. Ena senariaki eksypnakistiko, mia istorioula ap tin Poli mia skelida skordo kai nasou mia politiki kouzina...De leo ok, mporei na einai kali, alla 8ematika re paidia vgazoun mia mizeria mia kakomoiria, oxi epeidi asxolountai me koinonika 8emata alla epeidi auto mono kanoun. Kai eilikrina den 8elo na gino deiktikos, alla oses ellinikes tainies exo dei exo mizeriasei ap tin ypervoli, tin kakomoiria, tin maurila demeni me tin neoelliniki koutoponiria kai ton tyxodioktismo.

Paidia eida atoma na klaine me to "300", olwn twn ilikiwn. Oi pio fasariozikes antroparees, eixan vouva8ei kai sto telos xeirokrotousan...Giati pera ap tin plaka, fainetai poso anagi exei i koinonia mas apo ksexasmena apla pragmata kai idanika, pou mas leipoun kai de to xoume katalavei akoma, kai oloi autoi oi koultouriarides kai oi kareklokentayroi me ta kommatika symferonta 8eloun na mas kanoun na ta ksexasoume, mesa se ena klima "neofileleu8erismou" opou o ka8enas prepei na exei apopsi kai na einai kai sevasti...

VRE ANTE MOU STO DIAOLO...
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Souplaman

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Re: 300
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 06:08:53 PM »
+1

Έχεις δίκιο σε όλα όσα λες!

Εγώ προς το παρόν έχω διαβάσει το comic και έχω πάθει μεγάλη πλάκα.O Miler δεν παίζεται και έχει φτιάξει μια απίστευτη ατμόσφαιρα, που από ότι έμαθα απεικονίζεται και στην ταινία.

Μέσα στην βδομάδα θα πάω να το δω επιτέλους!
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Unsto

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Re: 300
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2007, 06:18:34 PM »
Kai egw tin eida stin premiera, poli kali tainia. Entaxei exoun prostethei kapoia pragmata gia na aresei se perissotero kosmo(elefantes 15 metrwn as poume) alla genika eksymnei tin arxaia ellada kai ton politismo tis, ti allo na zitisoume dld apo xenous paragwgous, anti na poume kai eyxaristw.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 06:35:28 PM »
Tin eida kai egw tin tainia kai mikros eixa diavasei kai to graphic novel...H tainia einai mageutiki gia to mati me poli drasi omws einai kai istorika akrivis sto kentriko kormo tis me tin pragmatikotita...Dld den exei ksefigei apo ta pragmatika gegonota apla o Miller exei para polles imo valei fantastikes pinelies stin istoria tou.Auto omws den me empodise apo to na min m'aresei i tainia...Mporei se pollous na min aresei auto alla opws exei pei o idios : "Mikros eixa diavasei gia tous 300 tou Lewnida kai mesa sto mialo mou logo tou nearou tis ilikias mou otan fantazomoun tin istoria parousiaza kai diaforwn eidwn plasmata giati i fantasia mou orgiaze...Oi istories autes den vgikan pote apo to nou mou kai etsi dimiourgisa to novel kai simeteixa stin dimiourgia tis tainias...Par'ola auta oi istoria twn 300 einai pragmatiki kai i niki twn Ellinwn stin eisvoli twn Perswn itan kathoristiki gia to mellon tou ditikou kosmou...Oi Perses pera apo tous Ellines ekeini tin epoxi den eixan allo empodio ston dromo tous...Gia mena autoi einai oi prwtoi hrwes tis istorias kai prepei na kathomaste oloi me deos mprosta stis prakseis tous kai ton politismo tous.".Pisteuw oti o Miller ta eipe ola...Mpravo tou...


Ypopsin gia opoion exei diavasei to comic i tainia den einai panomoiotipi me to comic.Exoun prosthesei kamposa stoixeia alla den simvalloun arnitika.
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Akirix

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Re: 300
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 03:28:18 PM »
plaka eixe h tainia....

ntax twra an den einai pisth sta istorika gegonta den xerw alla eixe poly fash...!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 05:25:38 PM »
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SoldierBlue

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 06:38:57 PM »
Den adiko ka8olou tous Iranous, ap ti meria pou to vlepoun. Einai i idia pleyra ap opou kai emeis vlepame ton "Alexandro" 1 xrono prin, i tin "Troia". Den elavan omws isos yp opsin tous, ton paragonta "comic" kai ton Dytiko tropo skepsis, texnis, diaskedasis...Allo i metafora enos "comic" sto cinema kai allo mia opoiadipote apopsi tou ekastote skino8eti, epano se istorika 8emata.

PS. 8a parakalousa tous admins na mi svynoun ta post mou, ean de vrizo, kyriolektika, mono, kapoion proswpika. Exei epanalif8ei polles fores sto parel8on alla nomizo oti tote anaferomoun i "evriza" ontws poly filika mou proswpa, i atoma tis omadas mou, mono kai mono gia plaka kai de to ekana 8ema, an kai 8a mporousa, legontas mesa mou ok, mporei kai na exoun dikio. Ean sas exo dosei tin idea genikos, faidrou atomou pou de paradexetai ta la8i tou, oste na zitisei sygnomi otan prepei, kserete poly kala pou 8a me vreite, gia na mou to antapodosete i na mou zitisete ta resta. Eimai arketa megalos gia na exo tin eu8ini auton pou leo kai kano. Yparxoun oloklira topics me ili8io periexomeno, spam synexos se ola ta sections, eironeies ekatero8en, yvreis, asyntaksies, pou i diki mou logokrisia -an imoun admin- 8a esvyne, alla i diki sas ta afinei...opote gia prosexte ligo. To dikaioma pou exete apenanti mou oste na milame na leme mlkies kai na paizoume karpazies, os isoi, ego sas to edosa an kai sas rixno 15 xronia sto ka8ena. Ap kei kai pera, allo sovarotis kai allo sovarofaneia, pou prospa8ite na mou perasete... 
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Re: 300
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 07:12:19 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 11:26:41 PM »
Logika tha thn dw to Savvatokyriako Endiamesa tou Tour :P Apo osous thn eidan akousa
kala logia k To trailer deixnei poly kalh atmosfaira, apo kei k pera apo th stigmh
pou einai metafora tou comic sthn TV, kserete pws to comic-book exei allh xarh dioti
to klhma tou einai to A k H fadasia tou anagnwsth to Omega... k to apotelesma monadiko.
Wstoso prin thn dw , de tha pw tpte allo, para :

Symfwnw kai epafksanw me ton Filtato Avnana se ola... mexri thn teleftaia teleia .
Bravo sou Mitso.
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Re: 300
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 12:26:54 AM »
H tainia G A M A E I ! Xoris polla polla...eidika se osous areskonte se tainies epikou xaraktira tha einai oti prepei!
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CUBE

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Re: 300
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 11:04:51 AM »
Φιλε blue η ταινια ειναι πραγματικα κατι παραπανω καλη.Δεν ειμαι κριτικος αλλα θεωρω πος εχουμε δει ηδη πολλα σκατα στην ΤV και στο CINE που δεν θα πρεπε.Τετοιες ταινειες οπως οι 300 ομως πρεπει να τις επιβραβευουμε.Κατι ακομα επειδη καλο ειναι να διαβαζουμε και κανα βιβλιο βρειτε ενα βιβλιο που λεγεται  ΠΥΛΕΣ ΤΙΣ ΦΩΤΙΑΣ  με θεμα παλι τις ΘΕΡΜΟΠΥΛΕΣ.ΟΠΟΙΟΣ το διαβασει θα με θυμηθει..........ειναι καταπληκτικο απλα...

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 12:03:01 PM »
Quote from: CUBE on March 14, 2007, 11:04:51 AM
Κατι ακομα επειδη καλο ειναι να διαβαζουμε και κανα βιβλιο βρειτε ενα βιβλιο που λεγεται  ΠΥΛΕΣ ΤΙΣ ΦΩΤΙΑΣ  με θεμα παλι τις ΘΕΡΜΟΠΥΛΕΣ.ΟΠΟΙΟΣ το διαβασει θα με θυμηθει..........ειναι καταπληκτικο απλα...


Φίλε CUBE τέλειωσα προχτες το βιβλίο αυτο! είναι απλός καταπληκτικό!νομίζεις πως ο συγγραφέας ζούσε στην μάχη και την έβλεπε από κοντά!το απίθανο είναι να διαβάσατε για τον τρόπο ζωής των Σπαρτιατών,την εκπαίδευση και την τελειοποιήση στρατηγικών!

Έχει πολλές πληροφορίες και καταπληκτική περιγραφή στην μάχη! Σε αποροφάει τόσο πολύ που το τελειώνεις και δεν έχεις καταλάβει για πότε (αν και είναι μεγαλούτσικο...)

A must reade!

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Godfevour

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Re: 300
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 01:31:57 PM »
Steven Pressfield - Gates of fire

Ola ta vivlia tou pressfield einai poly kala, apla sto gates of fire kseperase ton eauto tou. An eksereseis ton hrwa pou afhgeite thn istoria, ola ta alla einai alh8eia. Mporeite na to eksakrivosete apo arketes epistimonikes kai panepistimiakes meletes. Tha sas proteina na katebase auto to documentary: http://www.blue-whitegt.com/details.php?id=22616 (thelei register) . Einai h 3D anaparastash ths maxhs pou egine apo to History Channel. Vevaia peftoun se kapoies antifaseis,se kapoia shmeia, gi' auto 8a htan kalutera na diabasete to vivlio prin to deite.

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SoldierBlue

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Re: 300
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 02:13:50 AM »
To vivlio tou Pressfield, einai katapliktiko, to exo diavasei edo kai 2 xronia, episis poly kalo vivlio, se tetoio styl einai i "Η Καθοδος των Μυρίων" tou Michael Curtis Ford, vasismeno ston Xenofonta. Ma8ate Xenofonta sto sxoleio, alites, i kanate kopana? e...?

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 02:23:37 AM »
Quote from: CUBE on March 14, 2007, 11:04:51 AM
βρειτε ενα βιβλιο που λεγεται  ΠΥΛΕΣ ΤΙΣ ΦΩΤΙΑΣ  με θεμα παλι τις ΘΕΡΜΟΠΥΛΕΣ.ΟΠΟΙΟΣ το διαβασει θα με θυμηθει..........ειναι καταπληκτικο απλα...
odws  ;)
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