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Re: 300
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2007, 07:08:17 PM »
To θέμα όμως είναι να μην σου περνάνε και κάποια πραπαγανδηστικά μηνύματα μέσα από την ταινία.
Όποιος νομίζει ότι οι Αμερικάνοι που έχουν στα χέρια τους την μεγαλύτερη δύναμη να επηρεάζουν γνώμες δλδ το Holywood ότι δεν το χρησιμοποιούν για προπαγάνδα σε μία εποχή που γίνονται ΟΛΑ για το χρήμα,τότε εθελοτυφλεί.
Όπως το είπατε,είναι απλά μία ταινία αλλά αναφέρεται και σε κάποιους λαούς που υπάρχουν ακόμα.Δεν μπορείς να τα ισοπεδώνεις όλα.Από κομικ μεν αλλά χρησιμοποιεί υπαρκτά ιστορικά πρόσωπα.
Αν οι Ιρανοί ή κάποια άλλη χώρα παρουσίαζε τους Αμερικάνους σαν τέρατα τώρα δεν ξέρω τι θα συνέβαινε.
Ή πως θα φαινότανε σε εμάς αν μας παρουσίαζε σαν τέρατα,ενώ τώρα που είμαστε οι "ήρωες" όλα καλά.Αυτά.
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Re: 300
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2007, 07:35:59 PM »
Ntaksei paidia, pera ap tin tainia, exoun ginei diafores malkies genika, me tin Elliniki istoria. To lypiro einai oti ginontai akoma ki apo Ellines, opws px, me to vivlio istorias tis 6is Dimotikou, pou perigrafei kapoia istorika gegonota entelos epidermika, kai me lekseis pou alloiwnoun tis ennoies. Diavaza kai simera sti douleia mia "fyllada" kai oxi efimerida, se styl Athens Voice, pou periegrafe me aparadekto tropo tous Agonistes tis Epanastasis tou '21...Sigoura auta ta zwa, pou nomizoun oti kanoun pneyma poulontas ftino, oute kan mauro humor, prepei na logodotisoun...stamatisa na diavazo epeidi me prosvale san atomo kai Ellina. 

I amfisvitisi tis Istorias mesa apo ereyna den einai kaki, oute prosvlitiki, ean apodyknyei auta pou leei. Oi eikasies omws pou metatrepontai se stoixeia, einai oti xeirotero.

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Re: 300
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2007, 12:52:51 PM »
opos ke na xi me ta thetika ke ta arnitika tis ine i monadiki apo tis prosfates tenies me thema tin arxea eliniki istoria pou den prospathi na ypvivasi tous elines.

tin ida 2 fores ke isos tin do ke triti..

p.s. an to soundtrack to ixan grapsi oi manowar pistevo tha itan kalytera :P

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Re: 300
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2007, 03:06:17 PM »
Οταν βγηκα απο το σιμεμα ενιωθα πως ειδα μια ωραια ταινια με υπεροχες σκηνες μαχης(σαν χορογραφια) αργοτερα συζητωντας με τους φιλους μου κατεληξα οπως πολλοι πως τελικα η ταινια κατα βαθος μας ειχε πηξει στην αμερικανικη προπαγανδα!Αυτο βεβαια δεν μειωνει την ταινια σαν παραγωγη, αποδωση απο το κομικ, σκηνοθεσια κλπ αλλα το νοημα της και τον δημιουργο της ,ο οποιος οπως θα διαβασετε στην παρακατω συνεντευξη ειναι τελιως ρατσιστης-εθνικιστης-ιμπεριαλιστης.Αλλος ενας δηλαδη μαλακας αμερικανος που οχι μονο δεν κατανοει αλλα και υποβαθμιζει λεξεις οπως ελευθερια,δημοκρατια,πολιτισμος.ποσες φορες εχετε ακουσει τον Μπους να τις λει και εχετε αρχισει τα καντηλια;
Αρκετες ε;;
παρτε τωρα και λιγο μιλλερ...........................

    NPR: […] Frank, what’s the state of the union?

    FM: Well, I don’t really find myself worrying about the state of the union as I do the state of the home-front. It seems to me quite obvious that our country and the entire Western World is up against an existential foe that knows exactly what it wants … and we’re behaving like a collapsing empire. Mighty cultures are almost never conquered, they crumble from within. And frankly, I think that a lot of Americans are acting like spoiled brats because of everything that isn’t working out perfectly every time.

    NPR: Um, and when you say we don’t know what we want, what’s the cause of that do you think?

    FM: Well, I think part of that is how we’re educated. We’re constantly told all cultures are equal, and every belief system is as good as the next. And generally that America was to be known for its flaws rather than its virtues. When you think about what Americans accomplished, building these amazing cities, and all the good its done in the world, it’s kind of disheartening to hear so much hatred of America, not just from abroad, but internally.

    NPR: A lot of people would say what America has done abroad has led to the doubts and even the hatred of its own citizens.

    FM: Well, okay, then let’s finally talk about the enemy. For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we’re up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people’s heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I’m speaking into a microphone that never could have been a product of their culture, and I’m living in a city where three thousand of my neighbors were killed by thieves of airplanes they never could have built.

    NPR: As you look at people around you, though, why do you think they’re so, as you would put it, self-absorbed, even whiny?

    FM: Well, I’d say it’s for the same reason the Athenians and Romans were. We’ve got it a little good right now. Where I would fault President Bush the most, was that in the wake of 9/11, he motivated our military, but he didn’t call the nation into a state of war. He didn’t explain that this would take a communal effort against a common foe. So we’ve been kind of fighting a war on the side, and sitting off like a bunch of Romans complaining about it. Also, I think that George Bush has an uncanny knack of being someone people hate. I thought Clinton inspired more hatred than any President I had ever seen, but I’ve never seen anything like Bush-hatred. It’s completely mad.

    NPR: And as you talk to people in the streets, the people you meet at work, socially, how do you explain this to them?

    FM: Mainly in historical terms, mainly saying that the country that fought Okinawa and Iwo Jima is now spilling precious blood, but so little by comparison, it’s almost ridiculous. And the stakes are as high as they were then. Mostly I hear people say, ‘Why did we attack Iraq?’ for instance. Well, we’re taking on an idea. Nobody questions why after Pearl Harbor we attacked Nazi Germany. It was because we were taking on a form of global fascism, we’re doing the same thing now.

    NPR: Well, they did declare war on us, but…

    FM: Well, so did Iraq.

Αυτα μας λει ο μιλερ καθως και οτι το καινουργιο Μπατμαν που ετοιμαζει θα εχει τις προσπαθειες του κλασσικου πλεον ηρωα να αντιμετωπισει την εισβολη της Αλ Καιντα στο Γκοθαμ Σιτι!!!!!!!!!ΕΛΕΟΣ

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Re: 300
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2007, 06:45:39 PM »
Blue mou fenete katarxin oti mallon diskola briskis ti komma na psifizeis stis ekloges opos kai ego giati oloi ta exoun kanei mpaxalo,aftes tis teneies opos Troia,Alexandros,300 kai oti allo telika ftiaksoun apo to holliwood ta kanoun analogos pios tha tous ta skasei xontra tin epoxi pou ftiaxnane to Alexandros eixe erthei edo apo oti ksero o oliver stone kai eixe zitisei maroulaki kai simparastasei diladi me liga logia na tou ta skasoume gia na pei tin alitheia gia ton Alekxandro ton opoio den ta skasame kai mas ton ebgalan pousti pali kala na lete pou mesa stin teneia eipe for glory of Greece kai den eipe firo i pos diaolo to lene to kolokratos pou thelei na ginei kai Makedonia.
Oso gia tin tenia 300 perimeno na tin do sto dvd opote an do anakribeies kai m......... tipou Alexandros na min gelaei o kosmos me tin orgi kai to ksespasma mou.
PS:Ektos apo tous 300 o Leonidas eixe kabatza kai 800 thespieis  ;)
PS2:Gamati ekfrasi 'Ela na ta pareis',tora oi politikoi mas lene 'elate na ta parete'kai den erxontai afti einai i plaka perimenoun ok apo ton Americano  :D
PS3:Pantos oso anafora emena tha paroune ta @@ mou.

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Re: 300
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2007, 03:20:44 PM »
Blue mou fenete katarxin oti mallon diskola briskis ti komma na psifizeis stis ekloges opos kai ego giati oloi ta exoun kanei mpaxalo,aftes tis teneies opos Troia,Alexandros,300 kai oti allo telika ftiaksoun apo to holliwood ta kanoun analogos pios tha tous ta skasei xontra tin epoxi pou ftiaxnane to Alexandros eixe erthei edo apo oti ksero o oliver stone kai eixe zitisei maroulaki kai simparastasei diladi me liga logia na tou ta skasoume gia na pei tin alitheia gia ton Alekxandro ton opoio den ta skasame kai mas ton ebgalan pousti pali kala na lete pou mesa stin teneia eipe for glory of Greece kai den eipe firo i pos diaolo to lene to kolokratos pou thelei na ginei kai Makedonia.
Oso gia tin tenia 300 perimeno na tin do sto dvd opote an do anakribeies kai m......... tipou Alexandros na min gelaei o kosmos me tin orgi kai to ksespasma mou.
PS:Ektos apo tous 300 o Leonidas eixe kabatza kai 800 thespieis  ;)
PS2:Gamati ekfrasi 'Ela na ta pareis',tora oi politikoi mas lene 'elate na ta parete'kai den erxontai afti einai i plaka perimenoun ok apo ton Americano  :D
PS3:Pantos oso anafora emena tha paroune ta @@ mou.

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Re: 300
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2007, 07:33:34 PM »
Ο Miller είναι γνωστός μαλάκας.

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Re: 300
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2007, 12:32:41 AM »
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